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Fidaa
11-15-2009, 03:26 PM
let's comment on this lovely poem.

Andrew Marvell


ON A DROP OF DEW.



SEE, how the orient dew,
Shed from the bosom of the morn
Into the blowing roses,
(Yet careless of its mansion new,
For the clear region where 'twas born,)
Round in itself incloses ;
And, in its little globe's extent,
Frames, as it can, its native element.
How it the purple flower does slight,
Scarce touching where it lies ;
But gazing back upon the skies,
Shines with a mournful light,
Like its own tear,
Because so long divided from the sphere.
Restless it rolls, and unsecure,
Trembling, lest it grow impure ;
Till the warm sun pity its pain,
And to the skies exhale it back again.
So the soul, that drop, that ray
Of the clear fountain of eternal day,
(Could it within the human flower be seen,)
Remembering still its former height,
Shuns the sweet leaves, and blossoms green,
And, recollecting its own light,
Does, in its pure and circling thoughts, express
The greater heaven in an heaven less.
In how coy a figure wound,
Every way it turns away ;
So the world-excluding round,
Yet receiving in the day ;
Dark beneath, but bright above,
Here disdaining, there in love.
How loose and easy hence to go ;
How girt and ready to ascend ;
Moving but on a point below,
It all about does upwards bend.
Such did the manna's sacred dew distil ;
White and entire, though congealed and chill ;
Congealed on earth ; but does, dissolving, run
Into the glories of the almighty sun.

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 04:20 PM
wt a form!
i have spent one hour gazin' at the form, the rhyme, the meter ..
i read it out many times..

we have ABC then ABC
dew, morn, roses ..
new, born , incloses

then we have
D D D..
wt ! (32:)

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 04:27 PM
i'll be back after prayin'.

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 05:00 PM
alright forget about the form cuz it is really complicated...
we have also 40 lines.
i think NO. 4o is Marvell's fav number :(

ok.
he uses a very sad tone and one can feel this sadness throughout its long vowles but the last stanzes he uses very short ones..
sun, chill, distil, run .. why? the tone, the music changes?

mmmm
i like the analogy between the drop of dew and the human soul.
let's c this strikin' comprison..

lest it grow impure
why :(?

Sameeha
11-15-2009, 05:08 PM
i think NO. 4o is Marvell's fav number

To his Coy Mistress was 46

Sameeha
11-15-2009, 05:10 PM
I have to go right now, But I will be back in sha2 Allah

keep on fida2

I like what you've mentioned

Big brotheR
11-15-2009, 05:16 PM
alright forget about the form cuz it is really complicated...


but there could be a reason, you know.

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 05:32 PM
lest it grow impure
similarly as the dewdrop comes from the sky, the soul does which might grow impure cuz of the earthy things. mmm

Dark beneath, but bright above,
alliteration (14:)

Shed from the bosom of the morn
this image is very strange.
i feel that the morn is like a mum and there is sth taken/fallen from her heart. (32:) and its fall is necessary to commence a new day.
and this is why he says " the orient dew" cuz it is the sun's direction when it rises (in the east).

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 05:40 PM
I like what you've mentioned
sam, thanks for the pushin'-up but i mentioned nothing yet.
i am trying to decipher its meanin' step by step. i hate bein' alone thinkin' of it:)

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 06:45 PM
Into the blowing roses,
pretty image. these roses lap this dew among its foliage.
however, this dew does not care
Yet careless of its mansion new
it does not matter how lovely and beautiful this new place is but nothing as the home.
East or West, Home's best!

But gazing back upon the skies,
this dew yearns to its origin (the sky).
but why he said the skies in plural?!

Till the warm sun pity its pain,
And to the skies exhale it back again.
wow-wow..
the sun exhales this dew back to the sky!
kind :o

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 06:55 PM
Shines with a mournful light,
Like its own tear,
Because so long divided from the sphere.
Restless it rolls, and unsecure,

this justifies the sadness of the dew cuz it is divided from its original place/home and it feels unsecure in this new place. (the earth or amongest the 'blowing roses'.

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 07:00 PM
‘bend upwards’.
is it 'upwards' or 'downwards'.
we bend down not up :confused: ! do not we?

alla*
11-15-2009, 07:08 PM
this is my favorite poem fidaa'

in this poem Marvell, for me, is a different one
he is not the guy who wrote to his coy mistress , the definition of love or young love

i can feel his sincerety from every single line

although his metaphysical identity is everywhere in the poem

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 07:12 PM
OMG! OMG.
Such did the manna's sacred dew distil


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is it Manna and Salwa food that Allah has sent down to the Israeis during Moses' time? (32:)
Manna is the sweet honey while salwa is a particular bird.

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 07:18 PM
although his metaphysical identity is everywhere in the poem
show us some in the poem, alaa.
i am trying to trace its metaphysicality. helpe me :).

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 07:37 PM
i got it i got it (14:)
i mean i got the relation/ tha analogy between the three
the dewdrop, the human soul and the sacred Manna that their orginal place was the Heaven :).

now can we say it is a conceit
we have the tenor, the vehicle and the striking relationship between them.

wt's the difference b/w ' analogy ' and conceit? mmm:confused:
well.. let's retake a look at the poem.oops

Fidaa
11-15-2009, 07:49 PM
NOW, the fun must begin :D..
let's go back to the form.

btw, i will kill you nooor! where have you been?
it is done now :)
i should read wt is written online :)

cute angel
11-28-2009, 07:26 PM
Brb